September 16, 2022

Open Thread 113

It's time once again for our regular open thread. Talk about whatever you want, so long as it isn't culture war.

Reminder that Miramar is next weekend, and there's still time to join us there. Also, will everyone who is planning to meet up send me an email so I can coordinate better day of.

2018 overhauls are my reviews of Salem and Nautilus, SYWTBAMN - Strategy Part 3, Falklands Part 6, Nimrod and Auxiliaries Part 3. 2019 overhauls are Riverine Warfare Africa and South America, my pictures from the Tinker Airshow, Falklands Part 18, Fire Control Transmission and Naval Ranks - Officers. 2020 overhauls are Operation K, ICNW Part 5, Missile Defense Through the Decades - A Worked Example and Falklands Part 23. 2021 overhauls are Liberty Ships Part 1, Standard Parts one and two and Missile Defense Tests Part 2.


  1. September 21, 2022FXBDM said...

    Can we expect that you will do A Brief Overview of the French Fleet at some point in the future?

  2. September 21, 2022bean said...

    I might. Those kind of things depend on how much interest I have in the subject and what sources I have available.

  3. September 23, 2022bean said...

    Early report from San Diego: Midway is as good as I remembered, and the Maritime Museum is what I was hoping for in San Francisco. Would not recommend trying them on the same day.

  4. September 23, 2022Neal said...

    Fat Leonard has been re-arrested in Venezuela. Apparently he was trying to make it to Russia.

    Details here:

  5. September 24, 2022Philistine said...

    In Korean news, KAI has proposed to adapt their in-development KF-21 fighter for carrier operations with a tailhook and a significantly larger, folding wing, in either CATOBAR or STOBAR configuration depending on what the Navy orders. Of course this may well end up having no more substance than Lockheed's proposal for a "navalized F-117N" back in the 90s; apart from anything else, it's not clear that the Korean navy has any plans to ever buy a non-STOVL aircraft carrier. But it's an interesting sign of the times that KAI would even suggest such a thing.

  6. September 24, 2022Hugh Fisher said...

    Re the KF-21 for carriers, maybe they're thinking about a budget version for the Brits? Right now the RN has IIRC one squadron of F-35Bs, which apparently swaps between carriers as they come in and out of maintenance.

    More seriously, sell/joint venture for the Indian navy? India has carriers, but they might not be too confident of getting any more Migs for them in the near future.

  7. September 25, 2022Philistine said...

    Maybe. OTOH, the Korean navy has expressed interest in getting into the carrier aviation game, and the recent funding stoppage for their CVX program is said to be so they can evaluate the idea of going with something bigger than STOVL carriers. Also, I'm not sure where the possible export market would be: only the US, France, Russia (sort of), the PRC, and India even operate conventional fixed-wing aircraft carriers, and all of those but Russia (which may not be able to get Kuznetsov running again anyway) already have programs underway to develop their own new carrier-based fighters - meaning they're currently ahead of the proposed naval KF-21 derivative. Way, WAY ahead, in China's case. It's certainly possible that India's TEDBF drags out like LCA did, making an opening for a notional "KF-21N" there; but FWIW at this point HAL has more experience in designing and building carrier-based fighters than KAI does. And anyway, in that situation I would expect India to bridge the gap by buying more of whichever Western type they pick to supplement their MiG-29Ks.

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